# Beach ball @ startup OSX 10.12 Sierra

**URL:** <https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906>\
**Category:** TotalFinder\
**Created:** [September 25, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906 "2016-09-25T18:09:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![guppie](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@guppie](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/guppie)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/1 "2016-09-25T18:09:33Z")

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Hi,

Since I have installed TotalFinder on my MacBook running OSX 10.12 Sierra, I get a spinning beach ball when I boot my mac. This seems to continue until I see the Finder icon change into the TotalFinder icon. The situation lasts for about 20 seconds and then it disappears.  
I am running total finder 1.8.1  
Are there more TotalFinder users who are experiencing this issue?  
Anybody know how to avoid this?  
Regards,

Johan.

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**Author:** ![tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/tripero/32/1466_2.png) [@tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/tripero)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/2 "2016-09-25T18:39:47Z")

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Same here. Both my Mac Pro and my Macbook Air.  
Besides, i get sometimes and error when choosing Dual Mode.  
And in Dual Mode it´s impossible to resize the side window. Always error.

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/3 "2016-09-26T04:22:21Z")

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I’ve seen this myself with a clean Sierra install, so it’s definitely a conflict between Finder & TotalFinder. Will investigate.

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**Author:** ![tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/tripero/32/1466_2.png) [@tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/tripero)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/4 "2016-09-26T05:14:30Z")

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Thanks, Steve.

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**Author:** ![thrash4life](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/thrash4life/32/1790_2.png) [@thrash4life](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/thrash4life)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/5 "2016-09-26T15:21:06Z")

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Howdy - I \<3 TotalFinder and I can confirm the beach ball after logging in with a clean Sierra install as well. In related news, an uninstall / reinstall of Asepsis has returned a “Your Asepsis installation seems to be OK” when I run asepsisctl diagnose and no new .DS\_STORE files 🙂 - SIP is also re-enabled: csrutil status returns “System Integrity Protection status: enabled.”

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**Author:** ![xgman](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/58f4c7/32.png) [@xgman](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/xgman)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2016, 10:48pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/6 "2016-09-30T22:48:24Z")

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Same here beach ball at boot up for a bit. and temp freezes in the usability of Finder windows after that. No issues if you disable TF. Was the same in 1.8.0 and 1.8.1

Also tried Stock Sierra, and the latest beta and same result. SIP is disabled.

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**Author:** ![ISLAM](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/i/bc79bd/32.png) [@ISLAM](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/ISLAM)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 7:43am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/7 "2016-10-05T07:43:45Z")

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+1 here as well

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**Author:** ![Corey\_Gaspard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/corey_gaspard/32/1809_2.png) [@Corey\_Gaspard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/Corey_Gaspard)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 11:43am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/8 "2016-10-06T11:43:59Z")

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Same here, can confirm that TotalTerminal has the same issue as well.

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/9 "2016-10-06T19:15:41Z")

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Good to know. This should help narrow down the source of the issue as TotalSpaces is not exhibiting it.

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**Author:** ![AbhimanyuAryan](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/abhimanyuaryan/32/1723_2.png) [@AbhimanyuAryan](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/AbhimanyuAryan)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/10 "2016-10-07T03:32:10Z")

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I have this problem too ☹

I also wrote email to totalfinder support team after sierra launch but didn’t got any reply. Looks like they were working on fix. Hope this fixed soon 🙂

that spinning icon and waiting is very irritating…especially when you have macbook pro with 16GB & SSD

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**Author:** ![xgman](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/x/58f4c7/32.png) [@xgman](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/xgman)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2016, 10:05pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/11 "2016-10-09T22:05:28Z")

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Total finder and xtrafinder have both become unusable with Sierra. It’s a shame.

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**Author:** ![tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/tripero/32/1466_2.png) [@tripero](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/tripero)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/12 "2016-10-10T06:29:59Z")

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TF works like a charm to me. Only, the delay at loading when booted.  
Just needed minor corrections. That i´m sure they will be added.

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/13 "2016-10-10T20:23:06Z")

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Indeed, I will circle back around to TotalFinder and look into this issue after TotaSpaces 2.5.

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**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/beach-ball-startup-osx-10-12-sierra/4906/14 "2016-12-18T19:56:50Z")

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Please follow this suggestion for a workaround:

> **[Totalfinder Lauches very slowly in macOS Sierra](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-lauches-very-slowly-in-macos-sierra/4884/15?u=darwin)**
>
> Hi guys, My apologies for this neglected issue. I’m going back to TotalFinder and investigate it soon. If the problem is really just the CrashWatcher launch, you can disable it via Terminal.app using this tweak: defaults write...