# Can we help test Total Spaces 3 if we have Apple silicon? **URL:** \ **Category:** TotalSpaces\ **Tags:** question\ **Created:** [October 30, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199 "2021-10-30T15:09:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![BuckarooBanzai](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eb9ed0/32.png) [@BuckarooBanzai](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BuckarooBanzai)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2026, 11:42pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/267 "2026-02-19T23:42:44Z")
I’m not sure if this has been shared yet, apologies if so. For me, the one thing about TotalSpaces that I care the most about is the ability to remove the animation switching spaces, so that it’s instant. Well, this dude nailed it! It’s not a quick & easy install, but I finished building and setting it up on my machine and it works perfectly, switching spaces is now instant with no animation. > **[GitHub - flawnn/instantspaces: A yabai-based macOS scripting add-on that...](https://github.com/flawnn/instantspaces)** > > A yabai-based macOS scripting add-on that minimizes/removes space switching animation durations. ---
**Author:** ![steinhh](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/steinhh/32/2961_2.png) [@steinhh](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/steinhh)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 2:02pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/268 "2026-07-29T14:02:32Z")
**SpaceJump!!** Finally I found something that at least NAMES your spaces. Lots of features. Caveat: Installed it 5 minutes ago, so… Rejoice! Finally I can rip off the stickers I have taped to the top of my screen, my best solution so far after TotalSpaces died. I hate their introductory setup design (dark text on dark background), and their web page shifts between colors all the time. Fortunately their settings window is readable. ---
**Author:** ![tachijuan](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/tachijuan/32/2465_2.png) [@tachijuan](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/tachijuan)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/269 "2026-07-29T15:15:08Z")
I’ve been using [GridLion](https://gridlion.hopefullyuseful.com) for a few weeks and it’s really great. Just added the ability to drag windows (grab window and use a hotkey to switch to another desktop = take window to new desktop). Dev’s been super responsive and has been releasing features regularly. ---
**Author:** ![nomiskatz](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/n/8edcca/32.png) [@nomiskatz](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/nomiskatz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2026, 9:12pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/270 "2026-07-30T21:12:48Z")
Thanks. I’ve just tried GridLion. I agree it’s very good, ---
**Author:** ![manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/manasovo/32/2864_2.png) [@manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/manasovo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2026, 2:33pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/271 "2026-08-15T14:33:13Z")
Out of frustration with the TotalSpaces 2.0/3.0 project being discontinued, I started working with Anthropic on a completely new version, inspired by years of using Exposé & Spaces before Apple introduced Mission Control - and, of course, by TotalSpaces itself. I’m planning to launch the project in alpha and open it up for public testing next week. Would anyone else be interested in a new “TotalSpaces,” which I’m now calling **retro⊞spaces**? Thanks, and have a great weekend! ---
**Author:** ![manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/manasovo/32/2864_2.png) [@manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/manasovo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/272 "2026-08-16T15:15:37Z")
So I’ve prepared a pretty provisional website, I apologize in advance for the rough edges, but we’ve only been working on it for about 5 days. If anyone’s interested in testing the app, the website is here: [https://retrospaces.cz](https://retrospaces.cz/) ---
**Author:** ![binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/binaryfish)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 3:50pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/273 "2026-08-16T15:50:02Z")
I’m really looking forward to this and appreciate your work here! QQ: Should we be using that fork for installing yabai? I think the newer versions would be under asmvik (rather than koekeishiya). Am I reading that all correctly? I’d be new to installing either, so I just wanted to make sure before proceeding. ---
**Author:** ![manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/manasovo/32/2864_2.png) [@manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/manasovo)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/274 "2026-08-16T17:50:11Z")
Retrospaces is tested with koekeishiya, but I will try a few tests with the original. BTW, yabai is just a temporary solution, I hope 🙏💪 BTW **It’s the same project** - `koekeishiya` has since renamed his GitHub account to `asmvik`. `github.com/koekeishiya/yabai` now redirects to `github.com/asmvik/yabai`. ---
**Author:** ![binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/binaryfish)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2026, 10:45pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/275 "2026-08-16T22:45:10Z")
I followed the instructions to install yabai via koekeishiya and homrebrew installed yabai 7.1.25. I may be reading it wrong, but is it possible this version was taken automatically from the yabai asmvik/homebrew-formulae repository? If so, a little CLI review hints that it can move windows between Spaces without disabling SIP. If so, does retrospaces still require disabling SIP? I may be way out of my league here, so I’ll be over here patiently waiting for your review. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/manasovo/32/2864_2.png) [@manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/manasovo)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2026, 3:31am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/276 "2026-08-17T03:31:50Z")
The yabai version **7.1.25 is correct** and yes it’s same project/code as **asmvik**. **Disabling SIP** is important for two functions: **adding and removing desktops** - that could theoretically be handled differently _(the user could set everything up in advance in macOS via Mission Control)_ - but the key requirement is **switching from one desktop to another** , which relies on Dock injection 😅 I’ll add a **table to the website showing which features retrospaces supports and why each prerequisite is needed**. I hope that over time I’ll be able to replace some of these dependencies so that, for example, not all of them will be necessary, but time will tell - and it will also depend on whether there is enough interest in retrospaces 😀 ---
**Author:** ![binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/binaryfish)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 1:01am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/277 "2026-08-18T01:01:50Z")
I have installed retrospaces and am impressed with what you’ve created! I couldn’t get my old keyboard combo for showing the Overview grid to work, but the suggested one you created was fine and was easy to fully configure with BetterTouchTool so I’m up and running. Being able to quickly switch desktops, move windows between desktops on the Overview grid, and have my old setup running in record time is wonderful. When you make it so I can press [spacebar] in the Overview grid to spread out all the windows on each desktop, I think I’ll have pretty much everything I wanted back from TotalSpaces. I’m really excited about this and am looking forward to your continued development. Excellent job so far!! ---
**Author:** ![manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/manasovo/32/2864_2.png) [@manasovo](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/manasovo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2026, 4:56am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/278 "2026-08-18T04:56:17Z")
Version 0.1.2 is still very much a **prototype** and **proof of concept** , so there’s a lot more I’d like to add over time. Thanks for testing it and sharing your feedback - it really helps! 1. You can set the **shortcut for Grid Overview** to whatever works best for you. That said, I think there might be a small bug here, so I need to do some more testing. Please send me the **key combo** you’re using and I’ll try it on my side too. BTW, if some keyboard **shortcuts** or **hot corners** don’t work, it might be because the same shortcut is already being used by another service in the system. I’m thinking about adding a small **diagnostic tool** that could check for **duplicate shortcuts or conflicts** automatically. I think that could be pretty useful. 2. And if you have any ideas, suggestions, or things you’d like to see in future versions, please share them! 🙂 I still have a lot of places to polish and my **TODO list is already pretty long** , but feedback from people actually using the app is always welcome 3. I’m also preparing a small discussion forum over at the [Forum · retro⊞spaces](https://retrospaces.cz/forum/) . The idea is to gradually move feedback, ideas, bug reports, updates, and other information there so everything is easier to find and discuss. Thanks again for trying it out and helping me improve 🦾 ---
**Author:** ![binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@binaryfish](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/binaryfish)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199/279 "2026-08-26T13:54:10Z")
I’ve been keeping up with the new versions. Version 0.3.0 just implemented a nice improvement for me. The grid view overlapping windows fix makes that much more useable. Excellent work! I’m assuming you’ll eventually get around to implementing the option to press space (or some keyboard combo) while in grid view to spread out and see all windows (like the default when invoking Mission Control). That would make window management so much easier for me. 😊 I am enjoying watching this project as it continues maturing. Thank you! [Previous page](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/can-we-help-test-total-spaces-3-if-we-have-apple-silicon/8199.md?page=13)