# TotalFinder spontaneously quits **URL:** \ **Category:** TotalFinder\ **Tags:** issue\ **Created:** [January 23, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512 "2020-01-23T19:10:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bergea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@bergea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/bergea)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:10pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512/1 "2020-01-23T19:10:30Z")
For some reason, I boot up with TotalFinder enabled, and everything works fine until sometime later (several hours usually) I notice that TotalFinder is no longer running and Finder has reverted to it’s original state. I don’t get any notification of a crash - but TotalFinder is no longer active (and doesn’t appear in Activity Monitor). I then relaunch TotalFinder and everything is OK again, until sometime later when I notice that it has spontaneously quit again, and this cycle renews. Any ideas why? This is somewhat annoying. I am running OSX 10.15.2 and TotalFinder v.1.12.3 ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:40pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512/2 "2020-01-23T20:40:31Z")
When you look into `/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports` and `~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports` do you see any crash reports prefixed with “Finder”? Also I when you run ` cat /var/log/system.log | grep -i finder` in Terminal.app, do you see any unusual mentions of the Finder process? ---
**Author:** ![bergea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/fbc32d/32.png) [@bergea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/bergea)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512/3 "2020-01-23T21:59:10Z")
No mentions of Finder in either DiagnosticReports folder. The terminal entry yielded the following result: Last login: Wed Jan 22 02:58:26 on console You have mail. bergealyanak@Berges-MacBook-Pro ~ % cat /var/log/system.log | grep -i finder Jan 23 04:24:02 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.google.GoogleDrive.FinderSyncAPIExtension.698D5C38-E6EC-412C-8A55-666FBBFB6D9C[56225]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro Finder[90216]: assertion failed: 19C57: libxpc.dylib + 91878 [AC9AD00D-BAA9-3ABC-B557-77E604CF9955]: 0x89 Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.Writes-for-All-Inc.File.Cabinet.Pro.macappstore.File-Cabinet-Pro-MAS-Finder-Sync.7126F2B9-75BD-4EE2-8F31-739AD67256B5[90234]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.adobe.accmac.ACCFinderSync.A59D58F8-BD2E-4DCF-B4FD-E29084E900C0[90238]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.google.GoogleDrive.FinderSyncAPIExtension.E7EC3121-3213-4CFB-9D61-F53FFE87D0A8[90241]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.liupeng.mac.FinderMenu.FinderSync.6AE572E2-4730-4086-AD30-6E9F458F3C90[90243]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:36 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.getdropbox.dropbox.garcon.CC44C5B2-6BE5-457F-BF2A-86ABDB86DAB8[90242]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.microsoft.OneDrive.FinderSync.FA751E14-70F2-401E-958A-6D3B81563E2E[90233]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.lemkesoft.graphicconverter11.findersynchelper.770915B9-219A-4756-A7DA-EF296FEF85FA[90240]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.box.sync.findersyncext.D4C78E2A-1929-47F7-8DCA-93EFD8E25A2C[90237]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.resilio.Sync.FinderExtension.6786C760-1666-4F29-9D5B-FEC276D1C016[90232]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.eltima.cloudmounter.CMFinderSync.01388DA0-F3E1-4AE2-841C-152C4B4C9042[90239]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.macitbetter.betterzip.findersyncextension.5FF8112B-9CBE-4C31-AD42-A0DCD31BE676[90245]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.Box.Box-Edit.BoxEditFinderExtension.4CCF4601-A5B7-47A0-A24B-60D85A3FA218[90244]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Jan 23 07:34:37 Berges-MacBook-Pro AGMService[835]: ProcessPath : /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder Jan 23 12:47:26 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.liupeng.mac.FinderMenu.FinderSync.EFB1AE78-CC92-413B-85A8-DE9644998C42[19417]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Moneydance Jan 23 13:53:52 Berges-MacBook-Pro com.apple.xpc.launchd[1] (com.liupeng.mac.FinderMenu.FinderSync.DCF5B210-8532-4C47-80FB-C72BEBA0D920[24485]): Caller wanted oneshot behavior for pre-existing instance: caller = Finder Thanks, Berge ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512/4 "2020-01-23T22:14:35Z")
So I would guess one of those utils integrating with Finder is silently restarting your Finder.app for some reason. TotalFinder does not inject into relaunched Finder instance to prevent potential crash-on-startup-and-repeat situation. I’m afraid you will have to experiement removing them one-by-one to see which one is doing that. ---
**Author:** ![mjehna](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/mjehna/32/3091_2.png) [@mjehna](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/mjehna)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-spontaneously-quits/7512/5 "2020-11-06T11:03:25Z")
Hint for possible cause of problem: I’m using CloudMounter and also TotalFinder. It seems that CM is not very responsive when used with Google Docs accounts. At times it causes the appearance of the beachball, slowing down not only TotalFinder but the Mac Finder after all. After quitting CloudMounter, Finder works well again.