# TotalFinder status under OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) **URL:** \ **Category:** TotalFinder\ **Created:** [June 14, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858 "2015-06-14T20:46:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/1 "2015-06-14T20:46:30Z")
**El Capitan GM update:** [TotalFinder 1.7.9](http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/beta-changes#latest) has support for OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) (10.11.1-15B30a), but due to System Integrity Protection it won’t launch without a system tweak. [Read full details here](http://totalfinder.binaryage.com/system-integrity-protection). You can report bugs/issues here in the forum post. Thank you for your feedback. ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/2 "2015-06-14T20:47:28Z")
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**Author:** ![mileni](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mileni](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/mileni)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/3 "2015-06-14T21:29:34Z")
Frankly, it’s hard to find developers these days that really care about their products and continue to update them regularly. I really consider you one of them, and without total finder I wouldn’t even use finder at all. That’s why I have total spaces as well, even tough I don’t use it. I will gladly support devs like you anyday! Keep up the good work 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rummers](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Rummers](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/Rummers)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 4:09am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/4 "2015-06-15T04:09:56Z")
Wow that was quick! Just for your info, I have 10.11DP1 on a rMBP (15" mid-2014) and I don’t have the issue with the Visor looking blurry. > [@darwin](#): > > Visor looks blurry under retina resolution ---
**Author:** ![jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/jmaynard/32/938_2.png) [@jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/jmaynard)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/5 "2015-06-15T06:25:27Z")
Thanks for this beta - not realised just how much I rely on Total Finder until it was not there!!! Biggest issue remaining (for me) is the lack of ‘folders on top’ - never understood why Apple did not offer that as an option since (it seems to me) to be the most logical way to display stuff (maybe that’s because I spent 30 years as a Windows guy…). BTW: until this new beta I tried Path finder but it down not come close to Total finder!! cheers ---
**Author:** ![jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/jmaynard/32/938_2.png) [@jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/jmaynard)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/6 "2015-06-15T06:32:26Z")
Visor Feedback Drag and drop from one tab to another would not work until I closed and reopened the target tab. Even then there was no + sign as the file was held over the target tab (but it did transfer). hope this helps cheers ---
**Author:** ![ahenket](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/ahenket/32/871_2.png) [@ahenket](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/ahenket)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 8:01am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/7 "2015-06-15T08:01:02Z")
MacBook Pro Retina January 2014. Not having the Visor blurry issue either. ---
**Author:** ![HRD](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/h/71e660/32.png) [@HRD](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/HRD)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/8 "2015-06-16T01:34:25Z")
Well done - works well. ---
**Author:** ![steviegal](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/steviegal/32/1393_2.png) [@steviegal](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/steviegal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/9 "2015-06-17T20:16:03Z")
Just installed TotalFinder with my OSX 10.11 installation and am unable to scroll. Finder OK without TotalFinder. Thanks Steve ---
**Author:** ![ChrisSpera](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@ChrisSpera](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/ChrisSpera)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2015, 1:28pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/10 "2015-06-22T13:28:59Z")
If TotalFinder ends up “dying” due to system protection, would it be possible to create a totally separate, new finder app that did the same things (and/ or more) than TotalFinder injected into Finder? Apple’s never going to give us everything you have; but you could effectively rewrite the Finder from scratch and include your own features. This happens on the Windows side of the world all the time. There are a great many File Explorer replacements. It would be nice (and worth at least the $18 registration fee) to have something like that available. Just a thought tho… ---
**Author:** ![neilio](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/neilio/32/1400_2.png) [@neilio](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/neilio)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/11 "2015-06-23T22:38:05Z")
Looks like it’s dead under today’s b2 release. I get an error that Apple Events cannot be delivered, and restarting appleeventsd does nothing. TotalSpaces isn’t starting either. 😞 ---
**Author:** ![stephen](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/stephen/32/2286_2.png) [@stephen](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/stephen)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 7:23am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/12 "2015-06-24T07:23:24Z")
We’ll have a look, but this may be, as we feared, due to system integrity protection - for reference see [http://blog.binaryage.com/on-el-capitan/](http://blog.binaryage.com/on-el-capitan/) ---
**Author:** ![jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/jmaynard/32/938_2.png) [@jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/jmaynard)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 8:02am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/13 "2015-06-24T08:02:46Z")
El Capitan Beta 2 Problem: Error message ‘Troubles launching TotalFinder - apple events cannot be delivered’ no option to continue anyway; followed the ‘more info’ link but did not help… ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2015, 8:38am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/14 "2015-06-24T08:38:05Z")
I can confirm that TotalFinder 1.7.0 no longer works under OS X 10.11 El Capitan beta 2. TotalTerminal still works. TotalFinder does not work anymore. They both use the same injection mechanism/code. So it seems that Apple decided to disable apple-script-based injections on per-application basis or maybe depending on their location in the filesystem. I don’t want to make a quick conclusions. But at this point I think Apple’s intention is clear and even if we found a way around it, they would block the particular method in the next release. Please read our post here: [http://blog.binaryage.com/on-el-capitan](http://blog.binaryage.com/on-el-capitan) ---
**Author:** ![cmdshft](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/cmdshft/32/1404_2.png) [@cmdshft](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/cmdshft)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/15 "2015-06-25T03:28:02Z")
Total Finder is working just fine for me under El Capitan Beta 2 build 15A204h using v1.7.0 of Total Finder. ![](https://discuss.binaryage.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/71dc3a047885dbc5c066eced0339bd8c20488161.png) ---
**Author:** ![henderea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/henderea/32/1406_2.png) [@henderea](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/henderea)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/16 "2015-06-25T15:55:03Z")
@darwin Have you guys considered making a complete finder replacement? Something like Path Finder, but with the features and look of TotalFinder. If you do end up making something like that to work around the issues in 10.11, I would definitely buy a copy, even if it costs more than TotalFinder currently does. Maybe you could call it TotalFinder Pro 😄 If you do end up making something like that, you might consider opening up pre-orders to support development while you work on it. I would definitely be one of the first people to pre-order it, even though I’m on 10.10.3 and can still use the original TotalFinder. While I’m sure it would be a lot of work to turn TotalFinder into a complete finder replacement, I think it would open up a ton of possibilities that can only be done with complete control over the app. One of the features you might be able to add would be faster file copying, like TeraCopy on Windows but built-in. Maybe it would also make it possible to get rid of that annoying issue I keep getting where sometimes TotalFinder restores the session with every tab going all the way back to the root on the left (in column mode) instead of whatever sidebar item I started with. Anyway, if you make a complete finder replacement, I would definitely support it. ---
**Author:** ![malong](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/a9adbd/32.png) [@malong](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/malong)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/17 "2015-06-25T21:26:39Z")
totalfinder seems to work fine on beta 2 after setting rootless again and reboot sudo nvram boot-args="rootless=0" reboot must have gotten lost installing the beta 2 update… thanks for the fast beta 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Sappharad](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@Sappharad](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/Sappharad)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/18 "2015-06-25T23:38:47Z")
The fix above also works for me on beta 2. Thanks for posting it! ---
**Author:** ![jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/jmaynard/32/938_2.png) [@jmaynard](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/jmaynard)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 6:32am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/19 "2015-06-26T06:32:06Z")
After setting rootless and rebooting TotalFinder now works for me on beta2… so much better/easier/intuitive than Path Finder! cheers PS please don’t give up! ---
**Author:** ![eltio](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/ec9cab/32.png) [@eltio](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/eltio)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2015, 6:55am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858/20 "2015-06-26T06:55:39Z")
Yes, the fix works fine for beta2…and not only for TotalFinder… [Next page](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalfinder-status-under-os-x-10-11-el-capitan/3858.md?page=2)