TotalFinder status under OS X 10.11 (El Capitan)


#185

FYI:

If you hurry you can still get Commander One for $2.99, which is 80% off retail, for Black Friday and Cyber Monday.


#186

I played with Commander One, it’s a good start, but has a long way to go; I would keep an eye on them for sure and hope they continue to improve. I was hoping to avoid using something like PathFinder or ForkLift which seemed to ‘heavy’ and overkill for what I want. Kind of like using a Humvee when all I want is to drive to the corner convenience store; i.e. I need to do one or two things, go, in and out, done. However, I have finally settled on PathFinder. It provides most of the things I like with TF:

  1. sidebar on BOTH sides of dual pane
  2. colored sidebar, but not only colored icons, it uses the custom icons I’ve assigned to my folders. There are other apps which say they provide colored icons in the sidebar, but it’s only their own default icons they’ve chosen, or Apple’s default colored icons stored in the System/Library/Coretypes.bundle file, and only for the most common folders (Documents, Download etc); PF displays my custom icons I’ve assigned for ANY folder OR drive. FYI, PF comes up by default with a black/white sidebar, to get it to color you actually have to create a NEW sidebar, make it your default, then delete the B/W one. Not obvious, but once you know the trick…
  3. multiple tabs across the top
    4)status bar at bottom
  4. full path displayed at top with custom icons, so I can jump quickly to any folder up or down the hierarchy
  5. Drive icons on the sidebar or at the top if I want.
  6. sort the sidebar categories any way I want, i.e. sort Devices, Shared, Favorites as groups, not just the individual items in each group. For example, I like Favorites listed first, then Shared volumes, then Devices last.
  7. speed. PF has improved much in responsiveness since I tried it last many years ago. No it doesn’t pop up as fast as TF, but good enough. Now I just keep a PF launched all the time, and minimize to the Dock when not needed. And once the window is open, the file functions perform as fast as TF, at least on newer Macs. On my older, slower Macs PF is not as responsive, but I’m not upgrading my old Macs to El Cap anyways, so I continue to use TF on those.
  8. I don’t use PF for the other things like torrent, FTP, access to cloud drives etc, so no comment there. I’m use to using other apps for those functions, so my use of PF is primarily as a local file manager, the same as I used TF.

this is just my personal opinion, YMMV, each to their own. Kind regards.


#187

Hi,

http://www.stclairsoft.com/DefaultFolderX/index.html

seems that they solved the problem with Apples System Integry Protection.

Will that help?


#188

Hi @darwin, I don’t know how much development is still going on with TF, but if there’s any at all, then I’d like to contribute some feedback on how it’s working under OS X 10.11.

[I tried a couple of the alternatives to TF – honestly, I did – but I just could’t live without it in the end! Consider me also in the camp of people who would happily pay for *any* development work you do on the app… for any release on any version of OS X, now or in the future :grin:]

Anyway – column widths. I’ve noticed that in List view, the columns that you have showing will always reach to fill the entire width of the TF window, such that the “Name” column is super-wide if you don’t have that many columns of information. I can re-adjust the width of that column, so that there’s blank space at the end of my shown columns (which is how it used to be in 10.10), but as soon as I go to another tab and come back, it’s filled the window again.

Is this something you’d consider looking at for a future release under El Capitan? Or have you totally hung up your shoes on this one now?

Thanks and thanks again for anything you’re prepared to do for us small vocal group of supporters!


#189

Hi @gpcroft,

This list-view name-column auto-resizing is a hairy thing. It is standard Finder behaviour, which is implemented in the AppKit itself.

I was able to disable it in versions prior El Capitan after discussions like this:

// Annoying column view in mavericks with 1.5.5 in dual mode
// https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5499589
// Columns not resizable in dual panel mode
// Persistent Name column width in List View mode

Unfortunately the old method didn’t work under El Capitan, so I left it as is. I could try to spend some time to figure out a way how to disable it under El Capitan again.


#190

Ah, I had no idea (not having used the vanilla Finder.app for a very very long time)! Well, anything you can do, I’m sure we’d all be grateful for… but understand if it’s not a priority.

Cheers


#191

I am using DFX5 and TF 1.7.10 and I noticed that some features in DFX5 are not working with TF enabled (using Visor or not), namely the new DFX drawer feature. Has anyone else seen issues between TF and DFX5.

As far as the DFX work around I think the two products can’t be compared in function so the work around may not be an option or even a thought for TF.


#192

@darwin I apologize in advance as I don’t fully understand all the technical requirements involved here, but I was reading about code injection and I came across a mod called “DockMod” that figured out a way to do code injection in El Capitan without disabling SIP. Portions of their FAQ page says:

Dockmod 4 for El Capitan does not modify any system files. Apple introduced a new security policy on OS X El Capitan [SIP] that prevents modification of system files, even by privileged processes… To get around these measures and still achieve code injection, Dockmod 4 utilizes a signed kernel extension (KEXT) to handle the injection…

Dockmod 4 does not require you to disable System Integrity Protection (Rootless).
See FAQ section on: https://www.spyresoft.com/dockmod/

This option may not even be possible for TF, but I thought I’d bring it up in case no one else had.


#193

Hello there

Could the developer of Totalfinder comment about using signed Kernel extensions to handle the code injection?

would it be at all possible?

Kind regards

Giacomo


#194

Just a thank you for explaining how to turn off SIP. I will always use TotalFinder, it’s way better than any alternative, and the introduction of SIP is extremely uncool. If Apple cares so much about their “System Integrity”, then they need to make a system that actually has integrity.

Anyway if anything comes up in the future that needs to be disabled to keep using TotalFinder, I’ll always appreciate it if you can tell us what needs to be done, regardless of wheter TotalFinder is being updated or not.


#195

I just updated to 10.11.4 and somehow everything seems to be broken. Basically opening new folders, whether through Spotlight, through Alfred or for example by directly clicking on a folder on the desktop, doesn’t work at all. The requested directory is not opened. I have tried turning off visor, and turning off tabs completely, and still no luck. Sometimes nothing happens, and then sometimes a broken Finder window appears in the middle of the screen which I cannot interact with at all, and which I cannot close without killing Finder. I have uninstalled and reinstalled Totalfinder to no avail.


#196

How strange. Would you mind running some commands in Terminal for me, then copying back the output? Just copy and paste the below into Terminal and press the return key:

csrutil status
ls /Library/ScriptingAdditions
ls /System/Library/ScriptingAdditions

Also, could you gather some info from the Console? https://binaryage.clarify-it.com/d/meeryk
You might want to send that to us via email to support@binaryage.com


#197

Thanks. Here’s the results:

csrutil status
System Integrity Protection status: enabled (Custom Configuration).

Configuration:
Apple Internal: disabled
Kext Signing: enabled
Filesystem Protections: enabled
Debugging Restrictions: disabled
DTrace Restrictions: enabled
NVRAM Protections: enabled

This is an unsupported configuration, likely to break in the future and leave your machine in an unknown state.

ls /Library/ScriptingAdditions
BartenderHelper.osax TotalFinder.osax TotalTerminal.osax
MenuBarReArrangerHelper.osax TotalSpaces.osax

ls /System/Library/ScriptingAdditions
Digital Hub Scripting.osax StandardAdditions.osax

Will email the console info directly. Thanks!


#198

Thanks for running those commands. Everything looks good there. I’ll reply to your email about the logs.


#199

I’m having the same issues. Total Finder is completely unusable in ElCapitan at this point.
It was working for a couple of months…I’m not sure what changed.

Currently I’m just running Apple’s Finder.


#200

Hello Team,

I just ordered the Total Finder (our office finally upgraded to El Capitan - we were about 3 systems behind), and we miss the color bars on the finder! Unfortunately, the “fine print” for El Capitan is not very noticeable on your site, and I only found out that I’d have to disable security in order to install. If I had known that, I would have never purchased it. Being that this is an office, we cannot have any security down. I literally just ordered it, and would like a refund. Can you please go ahead and cancel our order? I can get you all the information you need.

I cannot find a phone number to call so unfortunately, I have to ask via this forum.

Thank you for your help.

Jackie

UPDATE - I just found an e-mail on the forum for refunds - I will contact you that way. Thank you.


#201

Problem TotalFinder 1.7.12 problem em open Zip file.

When double click in a ZIP file appear a windows outside the visor. And i can close them.


#202

TotalFinder has been an integral part of my workflow for years. So, since I don’t want to disable SIP, I spent the last few days looking for alternate ways of achieving at least some of the things TotalFinder did for me pre-El Capitan. And I decided to share my findings, here.

The TotalFinder functions I used the most:

  • Tabs: these are part of the normal Finder for some time now.

  • Showing/hiding hidden files using some keyboard shortcut: this (and a lot more) can be achieved using BetterTouchTool. It seems to set the corresponding Finder setting and then restart Finder. This takes 1 to 2 seconds, so I’d recommend clicking the ‘gear’ icon next to the shortcut and setting some HUD overlay so you know action is on it’s way. Should all Finder windows be gone after the action, you can fix that by opening Terminal and typing:

defaults write com.apple.finder NSQuitAlwaysKeepsWindows -bool true

  • Cut/Copy/Paste of Files in Finder: I was surprised to learn this is actually possible in Finder. Just copy a file, then paste it somewhere to copy it there, or hold down the option key while pasting to move it there.

  • Copying the POSIX path of a file to the clipboard: this can be done holding down the option key while copying a file in Finder.

  • Dual Mode / Visor Window: I didn’t use these, but it should be possible to use BetterTouchTool to assign some keyboard shortcut to an AppleScript that makes use of El Capitan’s new fullscreen Split View to show/hide 2 designated Finder windows side by side. I could try to write one, should there be interrest.

I hope this helps someone. :slight_smile:


#203

Is there a reason why you don’t want to install TotalFinder with SIP staying fully enabled? I did so and TF runs fine. None of the updates from 10.11.2 to 10.11.5 have destroyed the installation. As you seem not being afraid to use Terminal this installation mode should be an easy task for you.

You can find the instruction for this installation here:
http://totalspaces.binaryage.com/elcapitan-with-sip

Mike


#204

The reason is: I didn’t know the instructions for TotalSpaces also applied to TotalFinder. So, many thanx for making me aware of that. :smile:

But I think I’ll stick with my new setup. Took me long enough to make things work and it doesn’t look like TotalFinder will receive updates for much longer (or is there yet another blog post I haven’t read?), so things are likely to get … chaotic in the (more or less) long run. Though I really miss the “Folders on top”. :cry: