# TotalTerminal not loading on startup in Mavericks **URL:** \ **Category:** TotalTerminal\ **Created:** [October 28, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684 "2013-10-28T23:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/fort)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2013, 11:34pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/1 "2013-10-28T23:34:34Z")
Hi all. Since I upgraded to Mavericks, TotalTerminal has not been loading on startup. Instead, I get a dialog popping up that says “AppleEvent timed out”. To get TT working, I have to run Terminal then run TT and wait a while. I’ve tried reinstalling TT, with no luck. Any help much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![nomizzz](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/nomizzz/32/684_2.png) [@nomizzz](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/nomizzz)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/2 "2013-10-29T01:32:28Z")
I’m having the same issue on Mavericks (using the current TotalTerminal version, 1.4.4) ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/3 "2013-10-29T09:50:18Z")
Unfortunately I have no good solution for you right now. This was also happening to some TotalFinder users and I had to rewrite launching script into ObjectiveC helper app. It resolved most of the issues. I’m going to do similar thing for TotalTerminal eventually. But it has not priority right now. Please try to experiment with adding/removing items from your login startup items, or change delay in the script. ---
**Author:** ![ricw](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/c37758/32.png) [@ricw](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/ricw)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/4 "2013-10-30T18:16:01Z")
Same issue here. Extremely annoying ---
**Author:** ![Ernie\_A\_Oporto](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/ernie_a_oporto/32/2398_2.png) [@Ernie\_A\_Oporto](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/Ernie_A_Oporto)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/5 "2013-10-30T21:22:14Z")
What worked for me was to run the installer for TotalTerminal after a reboot. It works, but it’s annoying. ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 10:28am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/6 "2013-10-31T10:28:28Z")
I have re-evaluated this issue and I will fix it in 1.4.5. I will use the same code I have used in TotalFinder which fixed similar problems for majority of TotalFinder users. Stay tuned. ---
**Author:** ![fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/fort)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 5:26pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/7 "2013-10-31T17:26:13Z")
I got it working again by increasing the delay in the script to 5. It might work with lower numbers but I didn’t try since this worked for me first time. ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/8 "2013-10-31T17:40:54Z")
These issues should be fixed in 1.4.5: > **[TotalTerminal](https://totalterminal.binaryage.com/)** > > TotalTerminal is a system-wide terminal for macOS available on a hot-key Please test it and report back. ---
**Author:** ![fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/fort)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:25pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/9 "2013-11-02T12:25:57Z")
It’s not working for me. TT isn’t loading on startup at all and, although I don’t get the timeout error, I have to load Terminal first and then TT, in order to get it to work. The pity is that I had got the previous version working. ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:37pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/10 "2013-11-02T12:37:54Z")
Do you have TotalTerminal.app in your login startup items? Is it really TotalTerminal.app coming with 1.4.5 release? In you Console.app you should see something like: ``` 11/2/13 12:40:41.659 PM Terminal[1800]: TotalTerminalInjector v1.4.5 received init event ``` ---
**Author:** ![fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/fort)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:30pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/11 "2013-11-02T13:30:47Z")
[quote=“darwin, post:10, topic:684”] Do you have TotalTerminal.app in your login startup items?[/quote] Yes. > [@](#): > > Is it really TotalTerminal.app coming with 1.4.5 release? Yes. > [@](#): > > In you Console.app you should see something like: I do see that, but presumably it logs that if you run TT manually, no? Here’s what gets logged: ![](https://discuss-s3.binaryage.com.s3.amazonaws.com/8624f23aa4858612785a289f02f4c5fb923534f52a.png) I’ll try another clean install and see if it works. ---
**Author:** ![fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@fort](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/fort)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/12 "2013-11-02T14:18:21Z")
The clean install did it - it’s loading on startup, as it’s supposed to now. Thanks for making TotalTerminal compatible with Mavs so quickly! ---
**Author:** ![pnomolos](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/pnomolos/32/651_2.png) [@pnomolos](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/pnomolos)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/13 "2013-11-04T21:00:55Z")
I’m getting the same issue, but I’m seeing the following in Console.app: ``` 11/4/2013 13:02:50.086 Terminal[858]: AppleEvents/sandbox: Returning errAEPrivilegeError/-10004 and denying dispatch of event BATT/init from process 'TotalTerminal'/0x0-0x2d02d, pid=356, because it is not entitled to send an AppleEvent to this process. ``` ---
**Author:** ![darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/darwin/32/2275_2.png) [@darwin](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/darwin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/14 "2013-11-05T19:58:39Z")
@pnomolos Please make sure your TotalTerminal.app is in `/Applications` and not in `~/Applications`, also look into `~/Library/ScriptingAdditons` there should be no trace of `TotalTerminal.osax`. I assume you might have installed some historic versions and moved them around. This applescript error usually happens when apps from user folder try to talk to system apps in system directories. ---
**Author:** ![pnomolos](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/pnomolos/32/651_2.png) [@pnomolos](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/pnomolos)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2013, 11:58pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/totalterminal-not-loading-on-startup-in-mavericks/684/15 "2013-11-05T23:58:27Z")
The TotalTerminal.osax scripting addition that was hanging about is what was causing the issue, thanks for the fix!