# Waaaaaay too slow

**URL:** <https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248>\
**Category:** TotalFinder\
**Created:** [January 20, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248 "2015-01-20T20:51:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![mique](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/mique/32/2424_2.png) [@mique](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/mique)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/21 "2016-03-30T15:25:39Z")

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works faster, still nowhere close to 1.7.10… thanks

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**Author:** ![aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/aismagilov)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/22 "2016-05-11T18:44:29Z")

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Hello Darwin,

I have an exact same issue.  
Also, unchecking the ‘folders on top’ option doesn’t solves it for me - it looks like the TotalFinder becomes faster without it (switching between folders, selection, going in and out of folders seem to work faster), but the tab creation/deletion/moving and switching between them is still very slow (just incomparable to the native Finder operation).

I’ve installed the 1.7.14 you’ve provided here - it seems it’s faster with ‘folders on top’ option checked, but the tabs are still very laggy.

Here’s the system info:  
OS: OS X 10.11.4 (15E65) - El Capitan  
Model: MacBook Air 2013  
Model ID: MacBookAir6,2  
CPU: Intel Core i7  
CPU speed: 1,7 GHz  
Amount of CPUs: 1  
Amount of CPU cores: 2  
L2 cache (per core): 256 КБ  
L3 cache: 4 МБ  
RAM: 8 ГБ

Here’re the logs I see in my console when I’m switching between folders (on the side panel of the TotalFinder):  
[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3673793/total\_finder.log](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3673793/total_finder.log)

Note, that there wasn’t any such logs when I was using v1.7.12

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/23 "2016-05-12T18:49:21Z")

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Thanks for the log. Your `iconservicesagent` is very upset about something, and that’s making `quicklookd` mad.

I suggest [clearing out your icon cache](http://furbo.org/2015/01/19/clearing-the-icon-services-cache-in-yosemite/) and rebooting.  
(these steps apply to _El Capitan_ as well)

I’m also curious, do you have any apps/plugins installed which “badge” your Finder icons, such as Dropbox, OneDrive, etc?

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**Author:** ![aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/aismagilov)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/24 "2016-05-12T20:17:09Z")

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Hi Steve,

> [@BinarySteve](#):
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> I suggest clearing out your icon cache and rebooting. (these steps apply to El Capitan as well)

Done. No luck.

> [@BinarySteve](#):
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> I’m also curious, do you have any apps/plugins installed which “badge” your Finder icons, such as Dropbox, OneDrive, etc?

Yep, I’m using Dropbox.  
But I don’t think it’s pertinent - what I’m seeing now is that these logs happen when I’m visiting new folder (‘new’ here means the folder I haven’t visited after I cleared the icon cache as you’ve suggested).

Also, there’re other types of log messages that are thrown every time I look through a Finder window (not necessary visit by getting into from another folder) on a folder with the particular set of files - to this moment I’ve spotted this for \*.mkv, \*.wmv, and \*.zip  
This means I can CMD+Tab to browser, then CMD+Tab back to the Finder window with such files and this causes the logs to appear.  
The logs actually tell which files posed some problem for Finder’s Quick Look.

Here’s the sample folder structure for which I can observe such behavior  
—\> /Users/aismagilov/Movies/Learning:  
_/Cisco Nexus arch_  
_/Multicast_  
_020 - ASA Network Address Translation (NAT) part 1.mp4_  
_021 - ASA Network Address Translation (NAT) part 2.mp4_  
_009 - 802.1q Tunneling, Layer 2 Protocol Tunneling, EtherChannel over 802.1q Tunneling.mov_  
_03\_06042012\_building\_scalable\_data\_centers.wmv_  
_065. Redistribution case 1.mkv_  
_066. Redistribution case 2.mkv_  
_067. Redistribution case 3.mkv_  
_076. BGP NLRI Origination.mkv_  
_077. BGP Bestpath Selection.mkv_  
_132. Congestion Management.mkv_  
_133. Congestion Avoidance.mkv_  
_134. Traffic Shaping.mkv_  
_135 Traffic Policing.mkv_

From the logs I can tell that the problem is with files the QuickLook can’t perform the quick look 🙂 These are \*.mkv and \*.wmv for example. Note, that there’re no such logs for \*.mov which QuickLook can open.

The new logs are: [https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3673793/total\_finder\_12.05.2016.log](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3673793/total_finder_12.05.2016.log)

Any suggestions where to move from this?

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**Author:** ![jazzybeat](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@jazzybeat](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/jazzybeat)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/25 "2016-05-13T15:04:28Z")

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Same problem here. I have freshly installed OSX and Total Finder 1.7.12 and switching between folders are 2-3x slower.

Version 1.7.10 didn’t had that problem, but had other critical bugs when selecting files and folders and having selection to drop.

Is there is any way to activate only Folders on Top option and disable everything else about Total Finder?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/aismagilov)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/26 "2016-05-20T15:50:09Z")

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Guys,

Any news out there?

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/27 "2016-05-20T21:21:11Z")

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> [@jazzybeat](#):
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> Is there is any way to activate only Folders on Top option and disable everything else about Total Finder?

Yes, TotalFinder is highly modular (inside), so only what’s needed should get loaded. Have you tried just disabling everything except that “Folder on Top” checkbox?

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**Author:** ![aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@aismagilov](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/aismagilov)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/28 "2016-06-06T18:17:17Z")

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Guys,

I really waiting for your comments on this issue.  
It’s start to look like you simply ignore me.

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**Author:** ![BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/binarysteve/32/1668_2.png) [@BinarySteve](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/BinarySteve)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/29 "2016-06-07T06:36:04Z")

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I’m sorry you fell ignored, I promise that wasn’t my intention. I’ve only been very slowly [getting up to speed](http://blog.binaryage.com/meet-steve-the-new-lead/) with these products.

I have not been able to reproduce this issue. What locale (language) are you running?

My product SizeUp has an issue that currently only affects 2 users running Russian locale. My product Tickets crashes on launch for users of Polish locale. Two ridiculously strange bugs, but it has shown that I can’t assume anything when trying to reproduce an issue.

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**Author:** ![Amin\_Hemati](https://discuss.binaryage.com/user_avatar/discuss.binaryage.com/amin_hemati/32/1843_2.png) [@Amin\_Hemati](https://discuss.binaryage.com/u/Amin_Hemati)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2017, 12:51pm UTC](https://discuss.binaryage.com/t/waaaaaay-too-slow/3248/30 "2017-01-08T12:51:07Z")

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Thank you dude. that actually solves the problem.

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