TotalFinder Support In macOS 10.14 Mojave

question

#101

alexbotev

is it impossible to have it signed by Apple? I just ask I don’t mind have SIP disabled. I am glad you made this version. Happy to contribute again to your development if you like.

i didn’t see a reply to this. it seems like an important question.

my guess is that either the issue is

  1. you’d need to sell totalfinder in the Mac App Store and have apple sign off on it or
  2. totalfinder does stuff on macOS Apple doesn’t want any developer doing

if it’s #1 the resolution seems easy – just sell your app in the mac app store and raise the price to compensate for the apple cut

if it’s #2 that sucks :frowning:

i imagine the same analysis applies to totalspaces? that’s what i actually care about. i just bought totalspaces recently and love it and want to continue to use it but not with SIP turned off :frowning:


#102

it is #2 BIG TIME

Here is a bit more technical details:

https://totalfinder.binaryage.com/sip#mark-in-order-to-change-some-features-of-finder-we-use


#103

doh that’s super lame :frowning:

Permanently disabling SIP seems unwise so I guess this is the end of the road

thanks for replying


#104

Agreed. It is not good practice to disable SIP on a permanent basis, and for a developer to suggest this to allow an App to function comprises security. I for one, will not use Total Finder for this reason.


#105

Today I published TotalFinder 1.11.2 for everybody.

It can be downloaded from the homepage or from this page:
https://totalfinder.binaryage.com/changes

Please read our new blog post explaining current macOS 10.14 (Mojave) situation:
https://blog.binaryage.com/sip-and-mojave


#106

I’d be happy if you released a standalone file browser app with just the tabs, visor, and automatic widths in column view.


#107

I just bought TF the second time just for that. This fight is worth fueling with some funds and I urge everybody else to do the same. So many developers would have already dumped their customers and left them behind to deal with this SIP nonsense.


#108

I have been checked out but it seems that for Mojave support SIP will need to be permanently disabled.

While this could be fine for most people, as somebody who relies on their two Macs to make a living, I’m not prepared to take this risk.

I would happily pay more for a Mojave compatible version that can get around SIP.

I would also happily pay for a standalone Total Finder app.

Other apps like Path Finder exist but I’ve tried them and Total Finder beats them all.


#109

For what it’s worth, I am/was another TF user who is more than happy to pay money for a new version or a new stand-alone version that will work with SIP enabled. I have too much important work information on my Mac and therefore will not be using it with SIP disabled. TF is far superior than any other “similar” app.


#110

I am another user of TF which I have come to depend on. I would gladly help fund the development of a Mac-approved app. Please consider this.


#111

Thanks for your kind words of support, I appreciate it, but I don’t think this is realistic.

I don’t own/have Finder.app sources. To reimplement something like Finder.app from scratch, I would have to invest a ton of time. It looks like a simple app, but it has a lot of complex/advanced features under the hood. It would be quite some effort to reproduce them.

Second, I strongly believe that “File Manager” app segment is quite saturated. You have strong established players like PathFinder, ForkLift, CommanderOne to choose from. And there are many smaller emerging apps trying to offer a Finder replacement app. Look at fman[1] or Marta[2].

I understand that it is hard to change long-time habits but I would recommend to find an alternative or stick to stock Finder.app and move on. TotalFinder will never be a standalone app :-/

[1] https://fman.io
[2] https://marta.yanex.org


#112

Tried both suggestions out of interest - neither comes anywhere close to TF in terms of usability, configuration, performance. I will stick with TF despite SIP issue…


#113

I tried a number of the alternative “Finders” but was never really satisfied with them. Generally, they all seemed quirky to me…at least to my way of thinking how a replacement or enhanced Finder should work. When I found TotalFinder and TotalSpace, they worked soooooooo nice that I’ve stuck with them over many, many years. It’s a shame to see them relegated to the dustbin of Mac history. It’s also a shame that you can’t work with Apple to get them to review, approve, and sign your code so that SIP never enters into the equation.